International Day of Action

daniil's picture

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10:30 AM meet-ups at both Pershing Square and the South side of LA City Hall. Join together at 11:30  at Pershing Square for 12:00 rallly and march!! We are marching from Pershing Square at 12:00 noon through the financial district (via Spring Street) in solidarity with our brothers and sisters occupying worldwide.


MAIN STAGE PERFORMANCES: SATURDAY, OCT 15th
1pm Peter Joseph - speaker- zeitgeist director
1:30 Ertel
2:30 Corn on the Cob - band- blues/jazz/rock
3:00 Anakgayan- - Filipino hip hop
3:30 Shakti
4:00 Luminaries- electro
4:30 Parker Ainsworth
5:00 Finian- main- acoustic roots rock
5:30 Avasa & Matty Love- main- acoustic roots rock
6:00 Clayton Joseph Scott- main- acoustic roots rock
6:30 Living Things
7:00 Moon Tribe
8:00 Clean Up

Location: 

Our Home, City Hall South Lawn
200 N. Spring Street
Los Angeles

Date: 

Saturday, October 15, 2011 - 10:30am

62 Comments

old guy 57's picture

We all need to stand up

First, Thank those of you with the courage to stand up and get this started. There are more people supporting this movement than anyone knows yet. I'm a little old - so that blows the "young hippie" stereotype some were trying to promote. I work, pay bills. all that herd mentality stuff.


We have had the government we deserved. Through our neglect and inattention we have been led by fools and corporate greed to the place we find ourselves now. Every person that cares must stand up and say NO MORE now. There's great power in what is beginning to happen here and we can change the way business is done in DC. I'll be in LA tomorrow - see you then.

Keith Miles

Permit

 It is disturbing to see that it has yet to be answered and addressed. Is there a permit for tomorrow? Who is a contact for this kind of info? Can someone please respond? Thank you.  
Jon Raymond's picture

Yes

Yes there is a permit. it's called the Constituion of the United States. Grow a pair. Live free or crawl back into your hole.

j

"Grow a pair. Live free or crawl back into your hole."

Why would you say this? I do not understand why you would insult someone here. I definietly do not understand why me inquiring about a permit would draw an attack. Why would you tell me to grow a pair? Are you referring to testicles? It would be better if I could become a man? 

This site of all places. If I am hear, obviously it is likely that I am interested in being a part of this community and movement. So, why attack me?

Maybe I am asking if their is a permit so I have the facts straight. I didn't say I thought we needed a permit.

Jon Raymond, please, let's not insult one another.

~Annee

 

 

Permits and discussions of

Permits and discussions of whether the march has to stop at red lights??? If this is as disobedient as our civil disobedience gets, democracy is doomed. Revolutions don't get permits, people.

Read your history... To bring down the status quo, people have to be willing to go to jail and even die for their cause. 

very excited

So pleased to see an organized group fighting for what I think about everyday.  Looking forward to supporting and strengthening in numbers and in noise.  Let's work smart together.

old guy 57's picture

Numbers

The more this message gets out, the more support it will receive. I've been asking everyone I talk to and many hadn't heard of it. Many people don't watch network news (rightfully), many don't read newspapers; so if they're going to hear it has to be online or person to person.


If 10 people speak up they're ignored -100 people , pushed aside - 1000, marginalized. Once 100,000 speak up, the people we're talking to might listen. They know that it's a momentary leap to 1,000,000. Once their precious re-election is at risk this message will become important.

Keith Miles

Count Me In

FYI, I have a 92-year old father (who is very fired up with the OWS movement BTW). He's extremely spry for his age but I'm not sure whether he could "go the distance," so we may join you at some point along the way.

Has a route been planned or is that going to be kept under wraps until Saturday? Can anyone suggest a good midpoint location?

bdop4

John P. Garry's picture

Has the route for this march

Has the route for this march been planned?

Will we march in the street or on the sidewalks?

Will we need some type of permit?

What is Los Angeles law regarding non-permitted sidewalk marches?

Is civil disobedience included?

John

re: permits

The law in Los Angeles is that you can have a march on the sidewalk without a permit, but you have to stop for the light at intersections (unless the police decide to let you move through and they hold back traffic) and you have to leave room for pedestrians to pass by. Also, you pretty much can't use amplified sound without a permit. 

Leone

old guy 57's picture

Permits

I'm not an expert regarding the law, but I searched a little and this should certainly be protected by the First Amendment. Several articles indicate that protests and marches are excluded from applicable regulations for that reason.

Keith Miles

Jon Raymond's picture

apparently

There are a number of music groups scheduled to perform at City Hall where occupiers have been living for days and weeks. What do you think?

These kind of scare tactic questions reek of bank backed corporate shills.

j

old guy 57's picture

A clear,concise message

I've been reading several articles commenting about the goals and progression of this movement. Several journalists and politicians are taking liberties with the message. I saw Michelle Bachman interpreting Occupy DC as protests against the administration. It seems to me that it would be in our best interest to find consensus and somehow define more clearly what we are trying to acheive. The message is so expansive that few will have the patience to follow it. We can't hope to address all of the faults in the system at once. Many of the issues are connected and could be better represented if addressed as such.


I have great confidence that many intelligent people are trying to come up with the appropriate direction to proceed. One problem I've found in relating this to friends and family is that each city has it's own identity. Wouldn't this be simpler if a common unified front is presented? Someone in Indianapolis, for instance, won't feel connected to "Occupy Los Angeles".


I hope we can find solutions to some of these minor problems before someone attempts or succeeds at hijacking or subverting the message. I've been using "we" liberally throughout this post because I am a part of this along with the rest of the 99 percent we are trying to stand up with and for.


 

Keith Miles

alhs06's picture

Keith, the following

Keith, the following statement has been copied off the Occupy Wall Street home page (News), although some would want to add issues that are not intimately connected, (but understandably important none the less), to this. I would hope the other "Occupy" movement's throughout the rest of the nation would not try to complicate this simple & clear message, and just follow it's direction as passionately & successfully as our Brothers & Sisters in New York.

Occupy Wall Street is leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are The 99% that will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%. We are using the revolutionary Arab Spring tactic to achieve our ends and encourage the use of nonviolence to maximize the safety of all participants.

My picture reads

"Sell a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and you ruin a perfectly good business opportunity."

The 1% philosophy

old guy 57's picture

Thank you for the reply

I like the simplicity of this statement, it is from this greed that so many of our problems grow. I hope we don't miss the opportunity to use the amazing amount of energy that's currently being generated. I know there's momentum building, the movement is gaining support exponentially. Talking to people on the street, I hear many people with mainstream media interpretations.


I'm looking forward to Saturday, see you there. Check out this article  - well written:


http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/10/opinion/panic-of-the-plutocrats.html

Keith Miles

Rancho Larry's picture

Keith How about THIS MESSAGE?

Proposed OWS Mission Statement:

Given the recent history of economic events, resulting from the corrupt deregulation of financial intuitions and their subsequent abuses, and the dominate control gained by the top 1% in resources over the domestic electoral processes, we the people MUST NOW take the responsibility to implement Fair and Just corrections to our Democratic Republic of the United States of America. We must organize into an effective electoral block and call for a Constitutional Convention to implement the changes required for attaining a just society.

We MUST move away from Fear and Scarcity based decisions. We MUST move toward decisions arrived through Abundance based processes, as decided by an educated electorate, without violence, with an ideal 99% rate of participation. To that end we pledge our faith, energies, and resources.

Draft 5.0 RanchoLarry@3aweb.com rev.11-14-11

DayDreamer's picture

I've been searching

I've been angry for a very long time about everything going on in this country. I now have the opportunity to make a difference and it's because of all you awesome people giving me the courage to step forward! I'll see you there on saturday!

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That night-free Teach-In--Live Music/Speakers/10/15/2011

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"Stop the Machine, Create a New World"  Teachin, in conjunction with October Coalition 2011 and in the spirit of Occupy Wall Street; Saturday night, October 15, 7-9:30 PM, guest speakers and live music, at the Unurban Coffeehouse, in Santa Monica, , 3301 Pico St., Santa Monica, CA, 90405. Sponsored by Coffee House Teachins.
Special guest speaker: Ron Kovic, war veteran and peace activist.
October 2011 is the 10th anniversary of the invasion of Afghanistan and the beginning of the 2012 federal austerity budget. It is time to light the spark that sets off a true democratic, nonviolent transition to a world in which people are freed to create just and sustainable solutions.   Other speakers demanding real peace with social, economic, & environmental justice & an end to all U.S. wars include: 
Arlene Inouye, Coalition For Alternatives to Militarism in Our Schools (CAMS), and Kwazi Nkrumah, Martin Luther King Coalition for Jobs, Justice, & Peace.
Live music by Dennis Davis & Andy's LivingRoom Band.
Community members in the Los Angeles area will join with people camped in Washington D.C., in Freedom Plaza and across the country, on the following issues, which a yiv2069478257yui_3_2_0_16_1317736413456201 yiv2069478257yui_3_2_0_18_1317831892689207 yiv2069478257yui_3_2_0_19_1317987638537207 yiv2069478257yui_3_2_0_18_1318202932551213 yiv2069478257yui_3_2_0_13_1318251670566219 yui_3_2_0_17_1318288176674225" style="font-family: helvetica, verdana, arial, sans-serif; line-height: 21px;"> large majority of the American people consistently support:  
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Teachin at Santa Monica's Unurban Coffeehouse, Sat. night, Oct. 15, 7-9:30 PM, Free--Stop the Wars.

http://www.october2011.org and http://www.facebook.com/groups/teachins1/

Parking

there is an all day 4 dollar parking lot, 3 and Los Angeles on weekends. The meters mostly run so st parking while available is drought with ticket potential.

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Websterwebfoot's picture

BY KEEPING OUR EFFORTS PEACEFUL, WE WILL KEEP THEM STRONG

I will visit Occupy LA tomorrow (Tuesday), to greet and thank the people who have entered this protest before me; and I will definitely attend the peaceful march on Saturday.

I am a 64-year-old Viet Nam-Era Vet, and I’ve been through this before, when I was stationed in England in the United States Air Force. I paid a heavy price, too, as I was given a dishonourable discharge. But, would I do it again? Yes, a thousand times, because I did it to serve my people, not the military nor the selfish bureaucrats in D.C.

Forty-one years ago, hundreds of servicemen and servicewomen marched to the U.S. Embassy at Grosvenor Square in London and presented to the U.S. Ambassador a petition signed by over 300 servicepersons denouncing the war in Viet Nam.

From there, we marched to Hyde Park Speaker’s Corner, where Graham Greene addressed the massive crowd, and where I was interviewed by the BBC. I spoke calmly, yet my voice was heard by 50 million people around the globe.

I merely said what was in my heart: “I am a U.S. Airman. If I must choose between going to Vietnam and going to jail, I’ll have to go to jail.”

Did our little act of defiance do anything valuable? Did it help at all?

Yes. The eyes of the world saw us, the ears of the world heard us, and many hearts in the world were touched and softened.

So, I'll see you all on Saturday!

Oh, and everyone, please remember: This is a peaceful demonstration and it must remain so. Keep in mind that the police, whose job it is to protect the public and public property, will do the job they are told to do...

However, their numbers have been thinned by cutbacks, and their pensions severely degraded by the same people against whom we are protesting. The police are our brothers and sisters, our sons and daughters in arms.

I think you will find, if you are able to talk to them, that many would like to strip off their uniforms and join us.

 

Websterwebfoot

TIME CHANGE?

Has the time been changed to 12:00 p.m., from 10:00 a.m., for the International Day of Action?  That is what is posted on the calendar downtown.

Thanks!

End the FED

The Occupy Walstreet movement seems to have many messages and mixed messages.  I am most interested in End the Fed protests.  The Federal Reserve is the head of the snake. There are protests now at the San Francisco Federal Reserve, which is the head branch for the western US, but I was wondering if we could start that movement here in LA because there are so many people here.  Check out this website: http://occupythefednow.com/

Will this march be focused on the issue of the Federal Reserve or just Occupy Walstreet, protesting the elite etc.?  I can't seem to find information about anyone protesting the actual Federal Reserve here in LA.

sorry for the double post, wanted to make sure you read my reply

I want to write about and add a critique about this whole END THE FED discussion.  I'm not saying that this isn't an important issue, but I want to caution those who hold this close to their hearts from not being overly deterministic when they bring this topic up in conversation.  I'm beginning to notice a few of you who are dissatisfied that this topic is not constantly and soley up for discussion at all times.

We have to recognize the difference between causal inference and dialectical relationships.  Arguing that the discussion of the FED should be of primary importance is healthy, but calling for its destruction to be our one and only goal is egoistic, and overly deterministic.

What I mean is that this discussion implies that the federal reserve is the root of the problem.  It may be, I'm not well versed in monetary policy.  But it is not the only conversation worth having.  This would be as short-sighted as saying Al Gore invented the internet, there-for, we have Al Gore to thank for the creation of social networking and the rise of horizontal participatory democracy movements like this--And ManBearPig.

Our technology discloses our relatiionship with nature. A technological innovation with regards to the federal reserve question is the money commodity (a need to resolve the difference between the use-value and exchange-value of commodities we produce).  This relationship is effected and effects, dialectically, our proecesses of production (labor), which in turn, dialectically relates to the reproduction of daily life (commodities we use and need every day) and which is further developed in a dialogue between our dialy life and our social relations.

This continuous process is itself a disclosure of the interaction of our social relations and the way we labor and produce.

Our social relations dialectically effect and are effected by our mental conceptions, which in turn effect and are effected by our technology.

These dialectical (not causal) relationships further show us the interconnected interactions between our mental concepts, our processes of porduction, our social relations (and the relationship between our processes of production and social relations) and how they all relate back to our technological development.

Is the Fed part of the problem?  Probably.  Is it the only issue we need to address? Not even close.  Please think of the big picture before freaking out about not moving quick enough to reformulate monetary policy in the USA.  I encourage the discussion and ask that those of you interested go to the Occuptation and go around on your own volition to form a study group on the subject.  This way, you can form proposals for joint action which will be tempered by the heat of a wide variety of opinions before being put into the crucible of the General Assembly.

 

A critique

I want to write about and add a critique about this whole END THE FED discussion.  I'm not saying that this isn't an important issue, but I want to caution those who hold this close to their hearts from not being overly deterministic when they bring this topic up in conversation.  I'm beginning to notice a few of you who are dissatisfied that this topic is not constantly and soley up for discussion at all times.

We have to recognize the difference between causal inference and dialectical relationships.  Arguing that the discussion of the FED should be of primary importance is healthy, but calling for its destruction to be our one and only goal is egoistic, and overly deterministic.

What I mean is that this discussion implies that the federal reserve is the root of the problem.  It may be, I'm not well versed in monetary policy.  But it is not the only conversation worth having.  This would be as short-sighted as saying Al Gore invented the internet, there-for, we have Al Gore to thank for the creation of social networking and the rise of horizontal participatory democracy movements like this--And ManBearPig.

Our technology discloses our relatiionship with nature. A technological innovation with regards to the federal reserve question is the money commodity (a need to resolve the difference between the use-value and exchange-value of commodities we produce).  This relationship is effected and effects, dialectically, our proecesses of production (labor), which in turn, dialectically relates to the reproduction of daily life (commodities we use and need every day) and which is further developed in a dialogue between our dialy life and our social relations.

This continuous process is itself a disclosure of the interaction of our social relations and the way we labor and produce.

Our social relations dialectically effect and are effected by our mental conceptions, which in turn effect and are effected by our technology.

These dialectical (not causal) relationships further show us the interconnected interactions between our mental concepts, our processes of porduction, our social relations (and the relationship between our processes of production and social relations) and how they all relate back to our technological development.

Is the Fed part of the problem?  Probably.  Is it the only issue we need to address? Not even close.  Please think of the big picture before freaking out about not moving quick enough to reformulate monetary policy in the USA.  I encourage the discussion and ask that those of you interested go to the Occuptation and go around on your own volition to form a study group on the subject.  This way, you can form proposals for joint action which will be tempered by the heat of a wide variety of opinions before being put into the crucible of the General Assembly.

old guy 57's picture

I believe this is relevant to the discussion

A disturbing thought has been in my mind for several years. Our society decided years ago that we couldn't afford to care for people with mental disorders, so we closed the hospitals and put the patients on the streets to fend for themselves. Now we try our best to look away as they beg for change to survive. We should be ashamed.


Pension agreements have been negated, funds have been decimated ,causing more and more elderly people to have to work until they die. We have failed to care for the very people who raised and fed us. These people fought wars to ensure our survival and the continuation of Democracy. We have turned our backs on them and really wish they would just die and get out of the way. Stop taking our Social Security money and Medicare and just go away. We should be ashamed.


Our society requires both parents to work full time to afford to pay the rent and put food on the table, then we chastise those parents for not giving proper time and attention to their children. We punish the children for having poor values and morals, for using drugs and stealing. We imprison them and turn them into a sub caste with few rights and very little hope for a future. If by some chance they grow up to be less damaged; there is very little hope that they will be able to afford an education, thus ensuring the cycle will repeat. We can't afford to educate our children properly to give them a chance to achieve their full potential. We should be ashamed


We can't afford to house or feed millions of people wandering our streets hopelessly. I said MILLIONS.


Every conversation eventually comes back to money. Now we can't afford to house our prisoners. we can't afford to repair our bridges and highways. we can't afford to build or repair schools . College tuition is rising rapidly and will soon be available only to the wealthy. We can't afford to help the poor and disabled. We can't afford Social Security. Some have suggested that we should allow the infirm to die - it would be more cost effective.


What have we become? How have we deviated so far from the path our fathers laid out for us? When did money become the entire focus of our existance?


I have done many things in my life . I've earned and spent quite a lot of money. When my life is over, the only things of value that I will have done have had absolutely nothing to do with money. Trying to be a good parent. Trying to help those less fortunate than myself. Trying to be a good friend and neighbor.


I am ashamed that I can't change these things. I am ashamed of my powerlessness. I am ashamed of myself for my lack of dicipline and values. I challenge all of us, and particularly the obscenely wealthy to look in the mirror.


WE SHOULD BE ASHAMED

Keith Miles

a final thought on the FED

The creation of the federal reserve in 1913 was when our society became money focused and created the elite.  The federal reserve is a PRIVATE bank not a federal entity as they would want you to believe.  They have the power to print money and then loan it back to the US creating perpetual debt.  Our tax money does not go to our government, it goes back to the federal reserve to pay this perpetual debt.  Thomas Jefferson warned of this central banking system and warned that we would be waking up homeless in the land our forefathers fought for.  Because of the federal reserve, money is not backed by anything.  It is only paper.  They control its value and inflation.  This is why we cannot afford to take care of our people.  This is where our pensions have gone.  The federal reserve lost a trillion dollars and was not held accountable.  We must take the financial power back from this private bank.  We must start printing real money that is backed by real commodities such as gold and silver so that it means something and is not just paper.  When we cut off the head of the snake and abolish the federal reserve, then we can start to repair and rebuild our nation.  Then we can take care of our people.  Yes, we should be ashamed letting a PRIVATE BANK control our money and our politics. 

old guy 57's picture

Solutions and tactics

I'm in complete agreement that the system requires a complete overhaul. Our economy currently most resembles an enormous Ponzi scheme, it's value is contrived and unrealistic. The number of people and wide variety of types of supporters can give us a unique ability to at least force publc discussion on these topics.


I don't know if anyone has considered the power this movement could have if properly focused. We could use non-violent , completely legal and very effective mass movements of finances that would definitely catch Wall Street's attention. The only  impact we can have that will gain respect from these people will be economic. Theoretically speaking - Can you imagine the shock wave if everyone involved would cancel all of their insurance policies at the same time, or closed all of their bank accounts at 9:00 am on a Monday morning. The list goes on- the point is that with enough numbers we can force the dialogue.  We really need to use the only thing these people care about to influence their decisions. Appealing to their values or morals is a waste of time and energy. I don't know if enough people could possibly have enough faith to act in unison - but wouldn't it be something to experience such real democracy in action?

Keith Miles

Time

I wanted to know the how long will the protest that will be held on October 15th in Downtown Los Angeles last? from 10 am -?

ep021765's picture

As Long as You Want

The great thing about this movement is that it's on going.  After the saturday march you stay and protest as long as you want.  We're not going anywhere!

Thought you might like this poster.

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