End Corporatism objective to be proposed 11/26 from the Objectives / Demands committee

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The Objectives & Demands committee will be bringing this proposed OLA objective to the GA tonight (Sat Nov 26). We read it to the GA last night as an announcement.

A major objective of Occupy LA is to END CORPORATISM on the national, state and local levels.  We define CORPORATISM as the merger between corporate and the state power.  Some examples of this nexus are:

·       The pervasive influence of lobbyists throughout government
·       The revolving door between the private and public sectors as corporate executives and lobbyists become governmental regulators and legislators and then move back into the private sector again.
·       The preferential awarding of public contracts to private interests that are politically and econmically connected
·       The dependency and predominance of the public electoral process on private and corporate funding
·       Commonplace legislative action blatantly prejudicial to the public interest and grossly beneficial to favored corporate interests
·       The elevation of corporations to the legal status of persons enjoying the rights and privileges of citizens.
·       Wars waged in the interest of corporate profits.
 

As long as the above described condition is allowed to persist, the interests of the People will be prejudiced in favor of the Corporate interests of the 1%.  We will seek out all peaceful means, including citizen  legislative, legal and protest action to END CORPORATISM.

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After all these weeks, that's it?

IMO, its not effective to call for the end of an -ism. Wanna end or limit no-bid contracts, corporate personhood, et al. ? Then call for specific legislation to address it. The Civil Rights Movement wasn't trying to 'end racism', the goal was something like the Civil Rights acts.

Lots of posts lately about demands and such. All a day late and a dollar short imo, we coulda really used all this 5 weeks ago. Dan Marino.

MORE EXECUTABLE ACTION...THIS IS TOO VAGUE

Take the civil rights era for example.  Over all, they wanted to be treated equal in all facets of life.  But, they broke it down, and tackled an issue one by one.  For example when equality was sought, eating at a restaurant, they performed sit ins!  When they wanted to ride the buses and sit in the front, they boycotted the buses!  You see what I mean!?  Just saying, end this and end that broad thing will do nothing.  Faith without works is dead.  We're against the banks?  Yes!  So why not we actually form an ACTION against.  But it has to be an action that we all agree upon, and one that we ALL will do other wise it will be ineffective and pointless.  JUST a examples; I'm not saying to use them.  How about we not use debit cards?  Or have another money transfer day?  Better yet, why don't we start our own credit union?  Why don't we have sit ins at the bank?  Arrests will be made, yes.  But we can ensure that they are peaceful.  Everything is up to us, the people.  And as we know, together we can make a stand.  But let's do more than just stand.  Let actually run their asses over.

Civil Rights Act

The Civil Rights Act wasn't just one piece of legislation. It was a series of court cases that culminated in the Civil Rights Act. Arrests at a bank sit-in may not accomplish the same goal as a Civil Rights Era sit-in at a restaurant. The act of sitting-in at a restaurant directly defied the existing status quo laws. Scultping the protest to directly defy the status quo law would help. If it were a toll both we were protesting, we could all line up for miles and directly defy paying the toll by running through it. The subsequent legal cases could lead to a change regarding the toll booth. The civil protest arrests should cause court cases that will eventually change the laws.

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Politicians

Another thing...we the people can actually legally trigger a recall on people in office, if we get enough people to sign on and agree.  WE CAN.  This is another ACTION we can take (an extension of my above comments).  Let's get them all out!  And replace them with one of us!

OCCUPIED

From a perspective of efficacy, this set of objectives is exactly what the newly proposed legislation OCCUPIED states. To prevent co-opting, we could take the lead and get that piece of legislation through. Even in the Civil Rights Era, they had a lobbyist to get that legislation through. We will in the end need to use the laws of our land to accomplish our goals. That means seizing the day with something like OCCUPIED that states exactly this set of objectives. I support the stated objectives here but hope we will make them an action and not just a statement we vote on in GA. The Civil Rights Act was legislation that made their Freedom Rides and the like efficacious. OCCUPIED makes the tents and occupations globally efficacious. That's my perspective and thoughts on the proposal for the GA above.

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GREAT OBJECTIVES

It's awesome how the consensus process has formulated and articulated these objectives. no co-opting, and non-partisan! i completely 100% support these objectives and will encourage everyone i know to do so as well!


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CONSIDER ALTERING OR ABOLISHING THE CORPORATE FORM.

                Let me run this by the group.  Why not consider advocating the altering or abolishing the corporate form as we now know it?

                The corporation as we know it today is rather new predator in the economic jungle.  Until the end of the 19th century, it took an act of the legislature to create a corporation.   When legislatures did create them, it was with the proviso that they act in the public interests, and it was always for a specific purpose.  If corporations dared to venture outside of their legal purpose, their acts were “ultra vires” and therefore void or voidable. Moreover, most state prohibited corporations from owning stock in other corporations. This led the robber barons in invent the “Trust,” which formerly was the dominant means of conglomerating vast economic power.  Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson put a stop to that.

                Today, thanks to competition among the states to attract business, it merely takes filing a piece of paper and a few legal formalities to create a corporation with no other goal than making profit.  Now, one can leverage one’s own investment by selling stock in their corporation, and using various legal devices, such as “proxies,” to maintain as much control of the corporation as possible without having to venture all of one’s personal fortune.  The controllers of the corporation can appoint the Board of Directors and Executives and fix their compensation.  They may appoint themselves to these positions or run the corporation almost anonymously.   Furthermore, there are no longer any restrictions on corporations owning stock or controlling other corporations, save some ritualistic homage to disused anti-trust laws.  This ability to conglomerate creates even more leverage, which leads to huge bubbles like the one that caused the crash of 1929, and it further obscures ownership and responsibility.  Interlocking directorships can have one person serve on several corporate boards, sometimes to the demise of competition.  Private entities with heretofore unheard of economic power are the result of the corporate form.  Some corporations today are wealthier than many nations.

                For a country that professes to value individual responsible above all else, the corporation is an anomaly.   When the corporation fails, all those responsible for its failure lose only what they have currently invested therein.   Usually the insiders know when it is time bail out, leaving the suckers—usually pension funds, 401ks, and individual investors—holding the bag.   As we have seen, some bigger monsters went under leaving billions of dollars of debts unpaid and thousands of employees out of work.  Yet, the directors and executives still manage to keep their mansions and Mercedes.   It seems no one is ever responsible in a big corporation.  When the corporation is broke, one cannot sue any of the rich guys who made it broke.  You cannot jail a corporate “person.”   Who then is the blame when fraud is clearly found to exist?   The one thing that does seem to trickle-down in a corporation is blame.  There are plenty of low-level lackeys in a huge corporation on which to affix blame or to use to obscure responsibility.

                Once more, it seems the law has evolved that Corporations are legally required to be evil, greedy bastards.  The infamous case of Dodge v. Ford Motor Company set the standard in Corporate Law.  Henry Ford, finding his company had $60 million in extra profit, decided that he would give it all to the workers and the community that made him rich.  He would use the money to do things such as raise wages, create health plans, and support schools.  Minority shareholder sued Ford and won.  The rule that resulted is that the corporation must only look after the interests of the corporation.  Therefore, when you see the friendly corporate representative on T.V. telling you how much their enlightened and altruistic corporation gave charity, keep in mind that it gave only because of self-interest.   Such gifts are specifically justified as business decisions having to do with public relations—i.e. to deceive the public into believing they are giving to charity out of the goodness of their hearts.   In truth, hearts in corporations are prohibited by law. They have no loyalty to country or the human race.   If corporations were people, they would be the most pernicious and baneful people that ever existed.   

                The champions of today’s Corporate form argue that corporations create vast reservoirs of capital never before know.  Corporations also allow even people with modest means to become investors in the great industries of the world and grow their money faster than it would grow in a bank.

                 One might ask, however, “Do we want such power in the hands of profiteers without responsibility or democratic control?  Would not capitalism be much more of a tame animal without corporations? “   Imagine a world where the private economy consisted of mostly sole proprietorships and partnerships whose owners must personally suffer for their debts, torts, and criminal acts. Imagine the diversity of production instead of the corporate homogeneousness we see today.  Imagine the competition.   Major undertakings could be done by the government itself or by specially created corporations.  These corporations could exist primarily for the public interest and have specific functions.   (This is how they built the Erie Canal, for instance.).  

                Thus far, history has shown the free Corporation to be the worse government program ever devised.  Corporations are soulless monsters that devour governments even as powerful those of the United States, Russia, and China.  They make the people serfs of capital.  They unbalance the Reward and Punishments of society, putting a premium on capital manipulation rather than on productive labor.  Capitalism has never been perfect, but it certainly would not be this bad without corporations.  Capitalism is a beautiful but dangerous beast that can greatly benefit humankind when properly harnessed by democratic government.  Corporate capitalism, however, is the beast on steroids, raging out of any bonds society can employ.

                Here are some possible choices we can make:  1) Abolish capitalism; 2) Abolish all corporations; 3) Regulate the corporations in their present form; 4) Alter drastically the corporate form;  5) Leave things the same.   I am sure there are some creative solutions to the problem out there.   Please weigh in or help me figure out why I may be totally off base.

               

               

 

               

 

Passed by the General Assembly

The following Objective was adopted by the General Assembly of Occupy Los Angeles on Saturday, November 27, 2011:

A major Objective of Occupy LA is to END CORPORATISM on the National, State and Local levels.  We define CORPORATISM as the merger between Corporate and State Power.  Some examples of this nexus are: 

·       the pervasive influence of lobbyists throughout government

·       the revolving door between the private and public sectors as corporate executives and lobbyists become governmental regulators and legislators and then move back into the private sector again.

·       The awarding of public contracts to private politically and economically connected interests

·       The dependency and predominance of the public Electoral process on private and Corporate funding

·       Commonplace Legislative action blatantly prejudicial to the public interest and grossly beneficial to favored Corporate interests

·       The elevation of Corporations to the legal status of persons

·       Wars waged in the interest of Corporate profits.

As long as the above described condition is allowed to persist, the interests of the People will be prejudiced in favor of the Corporate interests of the 1%.  We will seek out all peaceful means, including citizen legislative, legal and protest action to END CORPORATISM.

28th Amendment, aka "The Corporate Amendment"

Personally, I would like to see an end of the idea of a "corporation." Literally no such thing as a corporation. There are plenty of other worthy, proven business models, and I'm sure there are others that have not been tried yet. Why not just eliminate the entire idea of "corporation" from our lexicon?

Here's why: Thinking realistically, it won't happen. Regardless of the well-funded pushback by corporations and their politicians (remember: "corporate" is not just uniquely American, but in fact global), there are enough people in general that would resist the idea of an abolishment of the entire idea of a "corporation" that it simply cannot happen. Corporations are here to stay, end of story.

So the best we can do is to have very tight control. A good, reasonable start that would have widespread support would be the following:

28th Amendment to the Constitution: "'Person' is defined as 'biological human being.' Only persons meeting this definition are entitled to the rights guaranteed under this Constitution.
Money is a financial instrument, and as such cannot be construed as having or equating to any rights. Therefore, money is not speech, and does not guarantee a person's right to speak.
A corporation is a business model, and as such is subject to regulation by governments, popular referendum by the majority of the voting public, and their own boards of directors." 

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